“This pandemic at the face of it is a health crisis but fundamentally it is an environment crisis”, says Juha Uitto, Director, Independent Evaluation Office at Global Environment Facility (GEF). Listen to him and Fabrizio Felloni, Deputy Director, Independent Office of Evaluation, International Fund for Agricultural Development (IFAD) discuss how their organizations are rethinking how to go about their evaluative work to address challenges that have affected their capacity to conduct evaluations. This discussion focuses on the challenges emanating from the current travel restrictions and subsequently the inability to collect empirical data. Interview hosted by IED's Saleha Waseem.